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I think the media is yet again overhyping an unfortunate situation so I have decided to appear on the scene with my scythe of reason.

*brandishes scythe*

In my personal opinion, people should take responsibility for their own actions, by and large.  I do not think it can be denied, however, that people CAN, in fact, become caught up in delusions or passion fueled by the machinery of their own minds and/or the encouragement/discouragement of other people and commit actions that, with ANY retrospection, they would later condemn.  Make sense?

So, my question is: how responsible should we hold anti-choice talking heads and radical pundits for the death of Dr. George Tiller?  A lot of the news sites I frequent are moving quick to hang the yoke of shame on Bill O'Reilly's head, but I am not sure I agree with this course of action.

Let's get an old-fashioned, reasonable discussion going, please.  Without any unsubstantiated claims (read articles about what you're posting about from many different sources BEFORE POSTING), tell me what you think about the abortion issue.

It is a very polarizing issue, for many people, but I do not think that should stop us from discussing it.  The inherently "loaded" nature of the question makes it one all the more worth coming to REASONABLE CONCLUSIONS about quickly and efficiently.

*brandishes scythe*

I'll start by feeding you my own opinion: I do not think men have the right to legislate women's bodies whatsoever, in any case.  This puts me in the "pro-choice" position, but it does not make me necessarily "pro-abortion."  I simply think the women should have all sanitary, medically sound reproductive options AVAILABLE to them at all times.

I do not think abortion should be the first choice.  I think our children should be given more comprehensive safe sex education from younger ages in our public shool systems.  I think this education should be supplemented by opportunities for inquiry and discussion in class AND at home.

I think the anti-contraceptive movement (who, I find, are quite often in bed with the pro-life movement), should be held more directly responsible for the "genocide" of fetuses in the last 50 years than anyone else.  I can find NO reasonable argument against contraceptives and safe, educated sex practice.

These are my opinions.  Its strange to think that this argument just caused a murder.

Really, think about that.  Then read.  THEN post.

*brandishes fucking scythe*

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In all reality there are very

In all reality there are very few people who genuinely just want to kill babies.

I think abortion is a horrible thing and the procedure should be very limited.  However, I do not think it should be the government's place to legislate.  The sick and uncomfortable reality is that the average scared high school girl will find some way to escape a pregnancy without it becoming public knowledge - regardless of legislation.

Honestly, I don't know that we need to be fighting so much to create awareness for safe sex practices.  I grew up in one of the most conservative families possible and I still knew what a condom was. What we need to do is just lose the sense of taboo we've created around sex.  It's still such an edgy thing that the average high schooler will be nervous about seeking out contraceptives.  This is easier said than done though - the "evilness of sex" has been imprinted into our psyche by years and years of social influence.

Taboos

I agree, but I do not understand why you don't think safe sex awareness is more of a pressing issue.  I think the only way we will eradicate the social taboo around sex is by discussing it more openly.  Better sex education programs would accomplish this goal.

Also, there's a big difference between knowing what a condom is and being prepared to find and use one in a heated, sexual situation.

I agree that discussing sex

I agree that discussing sex in an open environment is definitely a necessary thing to remove the feeling of taboo, and I suppose that discussing protection would be one way to do it.  But I don't think that there is an epidemic of younger people who are oblivious of to how to obtain protection. They simply are raised to feel so ashamed of sex that they don't feel comfortable utilizing it. I suppose the safe sex topic would be a good way to alleviate that awkwardness, but I don't feel that the actual safe sex lesson itself needs to be broadcast to the streets.  People already know - they just feel weird about it.

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